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The dictatorship government designates Maluf as the mayor of São Paulo.

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The dictatorship government designates Maluf as the governor of São Paulo.

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Maluf seeks support to run for president through indirect elections.

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LUNCH WITH MALUF

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Pa–pa–pa–pa–pa! You’re on TV!

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Hello there, dear Abril Video viewers.

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Again with you, your reporter Ernesto Varela.

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Last September, you’ve watched the premiere chapter

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of the new series we’re producing named:

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The aspirants to the power.

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Back then, we’ve been to Brasilia

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and tried to talk to talk with the aspirants to the power

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and some people who already own the power.

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The day I went after for Mr. Paulo Maluf,

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he didn’t get quite well the spirit of the question I made

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and something very awkward happened.

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Let’s check what happened in Brasilia. Play the VT!

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– I’d like to talk to you for 5 minutes.
– 5 minutes, it’s not possible.

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– 3 minutes?
– I give you half-minute.

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– Half-minute?
– What TV do you work for?

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TV Gazeta, from São Paulo, congressman…

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Only half-minute, Mr. congressman?

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Half-minute, it’s exclusive, let’s go.

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I’m going to be sincere, I’m not a political reporter.

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I’ve been around Brasilia today and I realized

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people don’t like you very much, sir;

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they say you are corrupt,

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that you’re a thief…

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Is that true, Mr. congressman?

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That’s it, my dear viewers.

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Now it’s October 1984, and we’re here in São Paulo,

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Brazil, at the SP Trade Center.

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Congressman Paulo Maluf is going to have lunch with businessmen

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and we’ll see if we can have a couple of words with him.

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Let’s go, Valdeci. This time we must succeed.

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Let’s go, let’s go.

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This hubbub you’re hearing here

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it’s on because one of the aspirants to the power has just arrived:

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it’s Mr. Paulo Salim Maluf.

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Let’s see if we manage to make

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Mr. congressman any question.

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The reporters keep on disputing to make a question.

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I’ll get in line to see what happens.

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Dr. Pau–

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Well, dear listeners, I sill couldn’t manage

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to talk to the aspirant to the power

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Dr. Paulo Salim Maluf before his lunch.

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He’s having lunch soon

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and I’ll try to find me a little table,

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maybe we can have a little piece lunch here too.

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Let’s go.

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Is someone sitting here?

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This one is fine, Valdeci.

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Sit down! We’re about to lunch here at São Paulo Trade Center.

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Behave yourself, Valdeci. This is a fancy place.

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Come on, sit down. You can sit now.

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What dish do we have for lunch today

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here at the São Paulo Trade Center?

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Today we’re serving a belvedere steak with Italian funghi,

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risotto and sautés potatoes.

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– Italian funghi?
– Yeah, Italian.

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– Imported ones?
– Yeah, imported ones.

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How much will the lunch cost here, today?

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Oh, unfortunately I don’t have any idea.

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Do we have to pay? Does the press have to pay for it?

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No, the press is our guest.

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– Who’s paying it?
– The company that’s organizing it, you know…

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Thank god…

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Can we use that microphone, Tonico?

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Can we use it? Give it to me! Can I show it?

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I’ll pretend… I’ll pretend I’m using it…

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Are Rede Globo’s lights on?

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We’re talking now with Tonico,

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my fellow reporter at Rede Globo.

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Tonico, how many times do you interview

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congressman Paulo Maluf in a month?

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Lately, I think I do it

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twice a week lately.

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Eight times a month.

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Why do you interview him so often?

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Does he always have interesting things to say?

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Neither he has interesting things to say,

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nor I have interesting questions to make.

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It’s just a drag.

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– Why do you keep doing this?
– I get paid to do that.

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Oh, do you get paid for that?

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And how do you come up with new questions

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to keep the viewers busy?

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No, that was a joke, because today, for example,

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we had the demonstration thing to talk about,

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all that happens in one day.

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One just has to have the patience to make the same question

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in 5, 6 different ways.

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It’s not just about a silly question,

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it’s about making it 5 different times

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in 5 different ways.

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Is it always the same?

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It’s always the same question, till he answers something.

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Dr. Paulo, what kind of philosophy or philosopher guide your steps?

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He doesn’t want to talk with the reporters.

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Let’s go after him, Valdeci.

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He has just met his brother and kissed him, look.

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Congressman, what philosophy or philosopher guide your steps?

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My private philosophy is a Christian one.

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It’s a roman apostolic catholic philosophy

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of a religious man who learnt the catechism as a child,

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someone who have read the bible and studied apologetics.

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In your opinion, what are Jesus Christ’s

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most important words?

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To love thy neighbor as thyself.

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You just mentioned the earthly life, but you consider yourself a Christian.

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Where are going after you die?

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I’m pretty sure that,

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since I worked a lot for the benefit of others,

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I’m pretty sure that god will spare me a place in heaven.

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How many steps far from– Congressman?

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He’s already gone, dear viewers.